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WILDLABS Virtual Meetup: Tools and Spaces for Collaboration - Shared screen with speaker view
Niklas Jordan
01:28:39
Hey guys, excited what’s happen today :-)
Lou Woodley
01:28:52
hello everyone - looking forward to today’s conversations!
Audley Burke
01:28:54
Hello everyone! Audley Burke, Community Engagement Manager at American Assocation for the Advancement of Science (AAAS).
Jose Lahoz-Monfort
01:29:48
Hi everyone, Jose Lahoz-Monfort joining from Australia
Damian Otieno
01:30:11
Hello Everyone! Damian Otieno, Project Manager at the Conservation Technology Lab at Ol Pejeta conservancy in Kenya.
Shah Selbe
01:30:36
Hi everyone, I am Shah Selbe (one of the speakers today) and I founded Conservify, a nonprofit conservation tech development lab, and I am also a Fellow/Explorer at the National Geographic Society.
Andre Quitmeye
01:31:24
Hi im andy. i run a lab in gamboa panama for interactive jungle tech
Adrian McEwen
01:32:50
*Waves from DoES Liverpool, a co-working and makerspace in Liverpool, UK* Hi everyone, Adrian McEwen here
Talia Speaker
01:34:19
Hi all, thanks for joining us today! Looking forward to this discussion. If anyone has any technical issues, feel free to message me privately.
Andre Quitmeye
01:34:28
yep
Shah Selbe
01:34:30
I can hear
Andre Quitmeye
01:34:31
i can hear
Audley Burke
01:34:32
Yes I can hear Lou
Stephanie O'Donnell
01:34:52
sorry complete fail on my part
Joanna Turner
01:35:10
Hi all, I am Joanna Turner, a postdoc at Loughborough University, UK, looking at applying machine learning algorithms for visual recognition. I am interested in wildlife conservation technology.
Vance Russell
01:35:58
Hi All, Vance Russell, Biodiversity & Tech Lead, Ecosulis
meredith palmer
01:36:37
Hi everyone, I'm Meredith Palmer - I'm based at Princeton and do camera trapping and citizen science.
Carlos Abrahams
01:37:12
Hi, Carlos here. I’m an ecology consultant and lecturer at NTU. Mostly interested in bioacoustics for wildlife survey - but other stuff too (GIS, R, drones, wetlands..)
Stephanie O'Donnell
01:37:49
More info about the AAAS Community Building Centre: https://www.aaas.org/programs/center-scientific-collaboration-and-community-engagement
Shah Selbe
01:41:15
Curious about how much of the information that the AAAS effort is available to the general public to learn from as we build our communities.
Stephanie O'Donnell
01:43:13
Excellent question. It’s a little part of why I was delighted Lou was speaking today, so we could have the knowledge Lou brings to be shared here.
Stephanie O'Donnell
01:47:20
Well. That’s a great idea.
Talia Speaker
01:48:56
Speaking of continuing the conversation on another platform.. we have a thread set up for you all to jump over to after this meetup is over, if you’re interested: https://www.wildlabs.net/community/thread/724
Stephanie O'Donnell
01:50:39
An example of the storytelling point: https://mailchi.mp/wildlabs/digest-april-2019
Rob Appleby
01:51:49
Thanks Lou!
Andre Quitmeye
01:51:50
yay thanks!
Audley Burke
01:52:09
Thanks Lou for sharing. #handclap
Lou Woodley
01:53:55
here’s the Center website: https://www.aaas.org/programs/center-scientific-collaboration-and-community-engagement
Joe Nash
01:54:23
thanks Lou!
Lou Woodley
01:54:28
You can find the link for the newsletter here: https://www.aaas.org/programs/center-scientific-collaboration-and-community-engagement/get-involved
Lou Woodley
01:55:02
And blog posts are here: https://blog.trelliscience.com/
Stephanie O'Donnell
01:57:43
@shah- this is one of the best starter resources on building communities I’ve found to date (via Lou): http://course.feverbee.com/wp-content/uploads/HalfBuzzingCommunities.pdf
Shah Selbe
01:58:00
Thanks!
Rachael Kemp
02:00:13
Great resource Stephanie
Adrian McEwen
02:02:32
We've been (ab)using github for its issue lists to track all the to-do items for the physical makerspace at DoES Liverpool. I gave a talk about it a while back - slides/notes at https://doesliverpool.com/slides/festival-of-maintenance-slides-culture-and-tools/
Stephanie O'Donnell
02:03:13
Oh awesome, thanks Adrian!
Shah Selbe
02:03:44
I’ve heard of people using GitHub tools for managing project aspects outside of strictly technical things. Curious about if there are any great examples of that we can explore.
Joe Nash
02:04:45
that’s awesome Adrian! GitHub does some really wild things with GitHub (and particularly issues) internally, well beyond code. I’m sure Corinne can share some, one of my favourites is that every team in GitHub uses GitHub the same way, including the legal team, who use it work on contracts
Joe Nash
02:05:04
there’s a great series of webinars at resources.github.com about how GitHub uses GitHub, lemme find some links, one sec
Lou Woodley
02:05:12
Agreed! I used GitHub once to plan and organise the tasks needed to deliver a conference…It was useful to have a specific goal to force us all to learn to use it and dig down into functionalities like adding categories to tickets.
Joe Nash
02:05:30
here we go! https://twitter.com/jna_sh/status/1074117493227024384?s=21
Adrian McEwen
02:05:38
Thanks! We stole the idea from one of our community - Francis Irving, who used it to track all the work he was doing on his house :-)
Shah Selbe
02:06:34
Thats awesome
Joe Nash
02:06:48
Mozilla mozfest are another good example: they use GitHub each year to review and organise hundreds of session proposals, here’s 2017’s repo https://github.com/MozillaFoundation/mozfest-program-2017
Lou Woodley
02:07:06
Nice - thanks for sharing the link
Joe Nash
02:07:56
literally just saw this tweet from a githubber using issues to organise their wedding 😂 https://twitter.com/lieke2208/status/1123690323010519040?s=21
Talia Speaker
02:08:34
That’s awesome 😂
Rachael Kemp
02:08:50
Pretty sure Cory Doctorow writes his books in Github so he can share it easily too with copywriters to submit issues
Lou Woodley
02:09:59
Plus…octocat laptop stickers! (A fantastic example of community swag and how it can continue to evolve as a creative project)
Joshua Siva
02:10:37
How do you include people in the development process (such as creating issues) who are not very technically inclined? I imagine that GitHub could be intimidating for some people.
Joe Nash
02:10:43
octodex.github.com for the dizzying variety
Rob Appleby
02:10:49
thanks Corinne!
Adrian McEwen
02:11:00
There is some sort of non-profit pricing/programme for github too - we got that for DoES Liverpool
Rob Appleby
02:11:23
What's the largest group of collaborators on GitHub?
Joe Nash
02:11:34
@joshua siva as long as you’re using GitHub features, and not git (I.e. you’re not having anyone dive down to the CLI, and you’re working on the web Ui), it’s not much more intimidating than a google doc
Joe Nash
02:11:40
the main barrier is terminology, I’ve found
Joe Nash
02:11:43
pull requests for example
Joe Nash
02:11:51
difficult term that doesn’t describe what it does
Joe Nash
02:12:03
I find nontechnical folks get it when you rephrase it in terms of it being a review tool
Joe Nash
02:12:17
same with issues - much clearer when you point out it’s just a forum essentially
Lou Woodley
02:12:57
Slack is another good example of this…
Joshua Siva
02:13:14
Thanks. That's some good advice. The last thing I want to do is have technology be a barrier to receiving feedback
Joe Nash
02:13:34
totally
Joe Nash
02:13:47
there’s also some good tools that make it easier to work between GitHub and simpler things
Joe Nash
02:13:49
one sec
Joe Nash
02:14:03
https://github.com/benbalter/problem_child
Joe Nash
02:14:06
is a good example
Joe Nash
02:14:46
it’s a standard web form that creates GitHub issues. so you can set this up and then your community members can submit issues without having to do the GitHub dance
Lou Woodley
02:15:05
useful - thanks
Rizky Firmansyah
02:15:38
Another example of a great collaboration project from Brazilian folks that I'm still learning on: Mapbiomashttps://github.com/saraivaufc/mapbiomas
Rachael Kemp
02:16:00
Yep
Rob Appleby
02:16:02
Yep!
Joe Nash
02:16:02
for numbers I’d also recommend checking out Octoverse.github.com @rob, it tracks the biggest projects and companies etc
Adrian McEwen
02:16:08
github has an API too, so coders can build little tools to make things more user-friendly - e.g. we automatically pull our new to-do items and thank people who've fixed things into our weekly blog post https://doesliverpool.com/weeknotes/week-413-fame/#somebodyshould
Stephanie O'Donnell
02:17:35
I think that’s probably right :)
Carlos Abrahams
02:17:46
That’s a nice shed…
Andre Quitmeye
02:20:41
heck yeah open source. there's no room in this world and especially these topics for locking off information!
Adrian McEwen
02:25:15
If anyone is looking for a local makerspace, then https://wiki.hackerspaces.org/List_of_Hackerspaces is a pretty good resource for finding one
Stephanie O'Donnell
02:25:44
Oh, that’s a great resource!
Rizky Firmansyah
02:26:22
Awesome! Thanks for sharing Adrian!
Rachael Kemp
02:26:59
The famous aquarium!
Stephanie O'Donnell
02:27:09
( if you double click on shah’s video, it goes full screen)
Lou Woodley
02:27:41
Qu: do you think you need to have a dedicated space before you can successfully get to a distributed space? (Sort of another way of asking about the importance of in-person meet ups to sustain remote communities)
Andre Quitmeye
02:27:46
i like that moveable tray!
Stephanie O'Donnell
02:27:55
Lou - I just wrote down the same question!
Adrian McEwen
02:28:41
Lots of familiar stuff there (including the familiar "well-used" look :-)
Rachael Kemp
02:29:04
Fantastic
Harold Tay
02:29:31
Thanks, nice tour (c:
Rob Appleby
02:30:41
I like the idea of distributed shops, maybe specialising in various things, like mechanical eng, or prototyping etc.
Adrian McEwen
02:32:03
@Rob I think you miss the cross-pollination of skills and ideas if you split things up too much though - we deliberately try to expose the "office" workers to the fabrication kit to encourage those connections
Rob Appleby
02:32:47
True dat Adrian. But I am more thinking about really expensive set ups that maybe we can all use
Rachael Kemp
02:33:37
One issue I've heard in the past is opening up access to the wider community in maker spaces can result in damaged machines / inexperienced users getting started take them out of action. Have you found this, and if so, how did you mitigate it?
Adrian McEwen
02:33:45
Agreed, I definitely want to find out about nearby companies with cool kit that I can play with :-)
Rob Appleby
02:34:37
I think you need quality assurance guides/guardians that can be the keepers of machines and make sure people like me can't get direct access to them...
Adrian McEwen
02:34:51
@Rachael we mostly get round it by having a bunch of us working here full time - means we get interrupted getting our work done by newbies, but we usually catch the "stupid" questions before they become machine-threatening
Adrian McEwen
02:35:16
Plus we have mandatory inductions for the more complex/dangerous bits of kit
Rob Appleby
02:38:31
thanks so much Shah!
Lou Woodley
02:38:45
thanks, Shah!
Rachael Kemp
02:38:55
Thanks Shah
Talia Speaker
02:39:23
nope
Lou Woodley
02:39:24
no
Rachael Kemp
02:39:34
Yes
Rizky Firmansyah
02:39:36
yes it's coming! I see your screen
Rob Appleby
02:41:13
Andre that is f&^K!n@ cool!
Rachael Kemp
02:43:24
Fantastic! (Alasdair and Rachael)
Rob Appleby
02:44:11
tell us more about the tree climbing robots!
Bruni Caselli
02:44:25
I was in Panama in April. Next time I'll visit you
Rachael Kemp
02:45:02
do you have a repository for your projects? (github etc)
Andre Quitmeye
02:46:23
right now we are just getting started up. I quit my job as a professor, and we moved in in jan. so stuff is starting up at www.dinalab.net
Andre Quitmeye
02:47:44
you can contact me at andrew.quitmeyer@gmail.com if you have any followup
Andre Quitmeye
02:47:48
thanks!
Andre Quitmeye
02:48:06
nice lab!
Stephanie O'Donnell
02:50:38
More info: https://www.wildlabs.net/resources/news/flir-and-world-wildlife-fund-announce-effort-combat-rhino-poaching-kenya
Paul Oryem
02:51:51
Are using Ushahidi?
Rob Appleby
02:54:30
Damian, that SMS system is a fantastic idea. Are you finding the communities are using it a lot?
Shah Selbe
02:57:14
It is so amazing to see a new testbed of conservation tech happening at Ol Pejeta
Shah Selbe
02:57:25
Seems like a great opportunity
Andre Quitmeye
02:57:57
so cool! i have a rad tech friend who goes to kenya a lot that i will send your way!
Rachael Kemp
02:59:42
Wonderful presentation and insight in to your work Damien
Rob Appleby
02:59:47
thanks so much Damian!
Andre Quitmeye
02:59:50
what's a good contact for folks to get in touch with you damian!
Vance Russell
03:00:06
Fantastic presentations everyone. Thank you so much!
Rob Appleby
03:00:28
boooooo...make it much longer!
Rob Appleby
03:00:37
4 hours?
Rachael Kemp
03:00:39
we agree
Andre Quitmeye
03:00:45
here's tree yabbie info for you rob
Andre Quitmeye
03:00:48
https://www.dinacon.org/2018/09/11/tree-yabbie-michael-candy/
Niklas Hanqvist
03:00:51
Hi Damian, Is it Grevys and Leopards you are tracing on individuals?
Shah Selbe
03:01:06
I am happy to answer questions about creating physical labs later as well
Andre Quitmeye
03:01:14
and the full book of many dinacon projects is here: https://www.dinacon.org/2018/11/02/book/
Shah Selbe
03:01:20
I can stay
Lou Woodley
03:01:26
i need to head out now, but happy to answer questions later!
Rob Appleby
03:01:32
thanks Andre! Shall check it out!
Joanna Turner
03:01:33
Thanks for the presentations 👏🏻👏🏻
Andre Quitmeye
03:01:39
i got another couple mins
Damian Otieno
03:02:31
Hi. You can reach me on damian.otieno@olpejetaconservancy.org or on Trwitter @DamianOtieno
Rachael Kemp
03:02:32
Thank you everyone, another really good session
Jose Lahoz-Monfort
03:02:37
thanks all! Time for bed... 1.30am here in Oz ;-)
Rob Appleby
03:02:39
Shah, what equipment would you most like to have in your lab that you don't have or don't access to?
Rizky Firmansyah
03:02:41
Thank you everyone!
Andre Quitmeye
03:02:46
thanks damian
Guy McCaldin
03:02:52
Thanks Damian, really interesting stuff
Adrian McEwen
03:02:59
Thanks everyone! Lots of interesting things to think on
Audley Burke
03:02:59
Thank you everyone! Take care.
Shah Selbe
03:03:11
My contact details is shah@conservify.org (our website is in dire need of an update fyi) or on twitter at @shahselbe
Talia Speaker
03:03:19
The recording and notes will be posted here within the next few days: https://www.wildlabs.net/virtual-meetups-season-2
Talia Speaker
03:03:31
And you can continue the conversation here! https://www.wildlabs.net/community/thread/724
Niklas Hanqvist
03:03:40
Will do Damian. We are almost neighbours, I manage a lodge in Meru.
htarold
03:04:35
Hi Damian, just curious, how are you assessing water utilisation at the boreholes now?